The 100 greatest players of all time

Michael Laudrup

Michael Laudrup illustrates the kind of evasive ability that made him so difficult to play against at his peak

60. Peter Schmeichel

Career span 1981-2003
Country Denmark: 129 caps, 1 goal
Clubs Gladsaze, Hvidovre, Brondby, Manchester United, Sporting, Aston Villa, Manchester City
Position goalkeeper
Medals 1 European Championship, 1 Champions League, 9 domestic titles (5 English, 3 Danish, 1 Portuguese); 4 domestic cups (3 English, 1 Danish), 1 English league cup

Given the exact requirements of their position, goalkeepers can really do little beyond being reactive. As elaborated elsewhere on these pages, they’ve mostly got to maintain focus and deal competently with the action that eventually comes their way. Except, that was, for Peter Schmeichel. Like no other goalkeeper in history, he went beyond the narrow parameters of his position and attempted to impose his personality on general play.

Most obviously, that came through his loud voice and the unyielding demands on whatever defence was in front of him.

Then there was his movement. As well as utterly dominating his area with that intimidating, mobile frame, he wasn’t shy of influencing matters at the other end – most famously in the final minutes of the 1999 Champions League final as his presence caused panic in the Bayern Munich box.

But the main way that Schmeichel went beyond the parameters of his position was by making saves he simply had no right to make. Some of his stops – most notably the star-jumps for one-on-ones – were as spectacular as any strike on goal.

A perfect example was the 1-0 win at Newcastle United in March 1996. The performance has gone down as classic Alex Ferguson character – the sort of will that ensures titles. But the fact is that, had Schmeichel’s level of performance even been 5% less, then United would have been 3- or 4-0 down by half-time.

It was that assurance which also underpinned Denmark’s unprecedented Euro 92 victory, as well as an eventual treble for United.

Ability 81
International 74
Club 79
Total 78

 

59. Ruud Krol

Career span 1968-80
Country Holland: 83 caps, 4 goals
Clubs Ajax, Vancouver Whitecaps, Napoli, Cannes
Position left-back, centre-back, defensive midfielder
Medals 3 European Cups, 7 Dutch titles, 4 Dutch cups

So obvious was Ruud Krol’s talent that, even though the young defender had never played left-back when he signed for Ajax as a 19-year-old, Rinus Michels immediately spotted that he would excel in the role. And not just there.

Krol would prove he could perform anywhere across the backline, moving to centre-half and libero. It was from the latter position that he drove Holland’s run to the 1978 World Cup last two, by then the senior player in a second successive final defeat to the hosts.

But he will always be best remembered for his contribution to Ajax. Quick and agile of thought, it was Krol’s explosive runs down the left which provided the side with the extra dimensions and angles that so defined Total Football.

Ability 81
International 76
Club 77
Total 78

 

58. Kenny Dalglish

Career span 1969-90
Country Scotland: 102 caps, 30 goals
Clubs Celtic, Liverpool
Position forward
Medals 3 European Cups, 10 domestic titles (6 English, 4 Scottish), 5 domestic cups (4 Scotland, 1 England), 4 English league cups

The great irony of Liverpool’s glory years is that, despite producing so many world-class teams, they weren’t necessarily filled with world-class players. Very good, dependable pros yes. But not an overload of otherworldly talent.

This was, perhaps, the perfect validation of the philosophy Bill Shankly had ingrained in the club. Football as a form of socialism, the collective over the individual – squads of solid pros combining to produce something that was far greater than the sum of its parts.

But there was – at least – one notable exception. There can be no denying Kenny Dalglish’s sheer class. Nor his historic influence on Liverpool.

As the Lisbon Lions waned, he had already kept up Celtic’s level of quality. And he only lifted Liverpool’s.

Dalglish was a definite, dynamic improvement on the more industrious Kevin Keegan. Indeed, the successive European Cup finals of 1977 and 1978 illustrated the contrast. Whereas Keegan had unnerved Borussia Monchengladbach in the first with his direct running, Dalglish ultimately defeated Club Brugge in the second with his depth of talent.

The chip over Birgir Jensen for the game’s only goal was both sumptuous and evidence of a truly innovative – and cool – talent.
Because, for all his crucial goals at Liverpool, it wasn’t just the end product. It was the leadership, the vision, the range and the sheer influence on games. As Alan Kennedy argued, “he worked hard for everybody… and saw passes and opportunities no-one else would.”

The surprise, however, is that he could never truly bring that level of cohesion to the international stage. And, here, Dalglish doesn’t quite have the excuse of playing in lesser sides – as others in the British Isles do. The Scottish squads which went to the 1974, 1978 and 1982 World Cups were bristling with talent. And, yet, as Brian Glanville wrote of Dalglish’s contribution to the 1982 tournament in The Story of the World Cup, “he was a disappointment yet again”.

Ultimately, though, no single player is so synonymous with the Liverpool team’s glory years.

Ability 83
International 65
Club 86
Total 78

 

57. Ruud Gullit

Career span 1979-98
Country Holland: 66 caps, 17 goals
Clubs Haarlem, Feyenoord, PSV Eindhoven, Milan, Sampdoria, Milan, Chelsea
Position forward, sweeper, attacking midfielder
Medals 1 European Championship, 2 European Cups, 6 domestic titles (3 Italy, 3 Holland), 2 domestic cups (1 England, 1 Holland)

Once elaborating on his difficult early years at AC Milan, Arrigo Sacchi outlined the building blocks any coach needs to succeed.

Most obviously, there was patience and a willingness for the club to believe in the manager’s vision. But, much more importantly, there was the need for the players to believe in that vision.

Sacchi’s was to win and win in style. And it took a while to get around the minimalist result-based nature of Italian football. With one exception.

“Early on at Milan,” Sacchi explained, “I was greatly helped by Ruud Gullit. Because he had that mentality.”

Given that the club had signed him for a then world-record fee, that’s probably the least Sacchi could expect. Indeed, it was a far cry from Gullit’s early career when Welsh manager Barry Hughes had to convince lowly Haarlem to take a punt and Arsenal manager Terry Neill balked at a fee of £30,000. Within a few years, he was moving for £6m.

But, by then, he had all the attributes you would expect of the most expensive player in the world. As well as mentality, Gullit possessed power, presence and precision. “The perfect blend,” as George Best would say of him. Carlo Ancelotti described him, variously, as a “thoroughbred”, “a barracuda” and “a missile”.

Certainly, you only need to look at his emphatic effect on the most elevated stages: the header in the Euro 88 final, the volley against Steaua Bucharest in the following season’s European Cup final.

The only problem was that such forcefulness of presence and mind always threatened to spill over. By that 1989 final, he was already suffering the injuries that hamper him for the next decade. And his bullishness ensured he fell out with Sacchi and walked out on Holland’s USA 94 squad.

At his peak, Gullit was almost unplayable. But playing at that peak for any extended length of time was always precarious.

Ability 81
International 75
Club 78
Total 78

 

56. Sandro Mazzola

Career span 1960-77
Country Italy: 70 caps, 22 goals
Clubs Inter
Position forward, attacking midfielder
Medals 1 European Championship, 2 European Cups, 4 Italian titles

The anointed one. Because of the fact Sandro Mazzola was only six years old when his famous father Valentino died in the Superga air disaster, there was always a certain expectation attached to his career. But also pressure. And pity.

As a youth, he was always referred to as “poor little Sandro”. Indeed, as he struggled with all the commemorations about Superga – not to mention the controversies caused by his father’s infidelities – he eventually stopped going to them. Leading to more press speculation.

It wasn’t until young Mazzola went to Inter, and came across the necessarily paternalistic management of Helenio Herrera, that he eventually found himself. And what a player he found. Quick, creative, technical and tricky, Mazzola illustrated all of those abilities in the 1964 European Cup final. At the Praterstadion against Real Madrid, he scored the opening and closing goals in a 3-1 win. The first was a strike from the outside of the area, the second a precise finish with the outside of his foot after an evasive run.

Much of Mazzola’s success with Inter – his only club – was down to the management of Herrera. The Argentine understood Mazzola like no-one else – not least where to play him. Herrera positioned him as a forward, unlocking so much of that attacking ability.

Amid the rigid structures of the Italian national team at that time, he didn’t quite enjoy the same influence. A perfect illustration was the stafetta strategy employed by Ferruccio Valcareggi. Unwilling to break Italy’s formation and therefore unable to play two such talented playmakers in Mazzola and Gianni Rivera, the Italian manager would use one per half.

The fact Mazzola eventually played 83 minutes of the 1970 World Cup probably indicates he won that duel. And it wasn’t the only one in a dynamic career.

Ability 80
International 75
Club 80
Total 78.33

 

55. Francisco Gento

Career span 1952-71
Country Spain: 43 caps, 5 goals
Clubs Racing Santander, Real Madrid
Position left-wing
Medals 1 European Championship, 6 European Cups, 12 Spanish titles, 2 Spanish cups

No player has won more European Cups, very few have won more domestic league titles and very, very few could run as fast. A champion sprinter in his youth, Francisco Gento offered Real Madrid’s great side an unrivalled acceleration that unravelled so many teams. With a nickname almost as elegant as some of his runs, he was known as La Galerna – the gale.

But there was much more to Gento’s game than sheer speed, as evidenced by his longevity. At the age of 32 he captained Real’s new generation of European Cup winners in 1966 and was the elder statesman in Spain’s then-isolated Euro 64 triumph.

Previously, though, he had proved one of the key components of Real’s Golden Age. Gento provided many a perfect cross for the Alfredo Di Stefano and Ferenc Puskas and enjoyed an almost telepathic relationship with the former. Indeed, by then enjoying a near managerial role in the side, Di Stefano explicitly asked president Santiago Bernabeu to sign Hector Rial in order to get the very best out of Gento. And that was exactly what Real saw.

As well as an average of a goal every three games, as well as a key strike in the 1957 European Cup final and the clincher in 1958.

Ability 80
International 67
Club 87
Total 78

 

54. Vava

Career span 1949-69
Country Brazil: 20 caps, 15 goals
Clubs Sport Recife, Vasco da Gama, Atletico Madrid, Palmeiras, America, Toros Neza, San Diego Toros, Portuguesa
Position striker
Medals 2 World Cups, 5 Brazilian state championships

Vava did little other than score goals. But, when he did, they usually meant an awful lot.

Other than Pele, Paul Breitner and Zinedine Zidane, he is the only player to score in two World Cup finals. In the first, in 1958, he hit the equaliser and strike that put Brazil ahead. In the second, in 1962, he topped off a tournament which also saw him win the Golden Boot. What’s more, he had helped fill the void left by the injured Pele.

It was his exploits in 1958, however, that had already won Vava a transfer to Europe. Having helped a series of Brazilian clubs to state championships with his goals, he attempted to do the same with Atletico Madrid. And, although his personal record was admirable, he was unlucky to be in Spain at a time when Real Madrid and Barcelona had two of their greatest ever teams.

But then, on the international stage, Vava helped complete one of Brazil’s.

Ability 80
International 80
Club 75
Total 78.33

 

53. Roberto Rivelino

Career span 1965-81
Country Brazil: 92 caps, 26 goals
Clubs Corinthians, Fluminense, Al-Hilal
Position attacking midfielder
Medals 1 World Cup, 2 Brazilian state championships, 3 Saudi Arabian titles

“Rivelino was everything I wanted to be as a player,” Diego Maradona once commented. “His dribbling was flawless, his passes perfect and his shots unstoppable. And he did everything with his left foot. It didn’t matter if his right foot was only good to stand on, because there was nothing he couldn’t do with his left. To me it was beautiful.”

The highest praise. And, of course, Rivelino illustrated why on the highest stage. Having only belatedly been found a starting place in a Brazil team that was brimming with his style of creator, he arguably only follows Pele as the name most identified with the excellence of 1970. But, for all the problems he caused the opposition, Rivelino actually solved one for Mario Zagallo. With an off-form Brazil unable to find the right player for the left side of the field, the manager realised Rivelino’s natural inclination to come inside would provide a perfect counterweight to Jairzinho’s surges on the other side. With such iconic sides, of course, there is an eternal debate over whether the quality of the players makes the team or the quality of the team makes the players. There can be little doubt Rivelino falls into the former.

But the irony is perhaps that the 1970 World Cup did make his career. Previously, he had been a fantastic player who tended to fade in games. And he certainly didn’t have the energy to propel Corinthians to any major trophies during his nine-year stint there. For all of his class, the clubs’ fans eventually saw him as an “unlucky charm – a man incapable of leading the team to the titles they yearned for”.

It was only when he had left Corinthians, in acrimony, that he won the first club medals of his career: back-to-back state championships with Fluminense.

In what was perhaps a greater indication of his ability than any medal, however, it was Rivelino who would eventually inherit Pele’s fabled number-10 short.

Ability 90
International 80
Club 65
Total 78.33

 

52. Paolo Maldini

Career span 1984-2009
Country Italy: 126 caps, 7 goals
Clubs Milan
Position left-back, centre-back
Medals 5 Champions Leagues, 7 Italian titles, 1 Italian cup

When a player spends so long at such a successful club, it can often be difficult to extricate his exact influence in all of those victories. When Kaka arrived at Milan in 2003, however, he soon grasped the reality.

“I realised very quickly that he was exactly the player I’d watched on television, so I wanted to learn his secrets. I found that his strong motivation is simply due to his character. You have to be born that way.”

Much like Ryan Giggs at Manchester United, and Phil Thompson at Liverpool, Maldini imbued in Milan the kind of values that bring victory.

“He’s a true leader,” Gennaro Gattuso argued. “He never raises his voice and never shouts at anyone.”

Of course, such composure ensured Maldini was an almost impeccable defender. And an adventurous. His abrasive sliding tackles and ensuing charges up the line would often bring standing ovations from the San Siro crowd.

But that composure could, occasionally, slip into lack of focus. Ahead of USA 94, the excellent defensive analyst in Jack Charlton sat his Irish squad down in front of a screen and pointed out a series of flaws in Maldini’s game.

“People call him the best in the world but I’m not so sure. Look what happens here,” Charlton said as the squad watched footage of Jurgen Klinsmann holding off Maldini and then getting around him.

It wasn’t the only time. At Euro 96, Maldini endured a torrid time against Karel Poborsky and, in the 2002 World Cup, it was he who missed the header that allowed Korea to score the golden goal.

Certainly, Maldini made more than a few high-profile errors in his career. But he won many more high-profile games.

Ability 80
International 75
Club 80
Total 78.33

 

51. Michael Laudrup

Career span 1981-98
Country Denmark: 104 caps, 37 goals
Clubs KB, Brondby, Juventus, Lazio (loan), Barcelona, Real Madrid, Vissel Kobe, Ajax
Position attacking midfielder
Medals 1 Champions League, 7 domestic titles (5 Spain, 1 Italy, 1 Holland), 2 domestic cups (1 Spain, 1 Holland)

At his very best, Michael Laudrup was arguably an equal for football history’s genuine elite. Indeed it was often said that, although Johan Cruyff was unique, Laudrup was the player who came closest to his style and quality.

As if to give his personal approvals to the comparisons, of course, Cruyff then went and signed Laudrup for Barcelona.

“When Michael plays,” his new manager once said, “it’s like a dream, a magical illusion. No-one in the world comes anywhere near his level.”

Certainly – as Jimmy Burns summed up the Spanish belief at the time – “when Laudrup played well, Barcelona excelled”. Blessed with vision, terrific technique and a devastating change of pace, the Dane was the focal point of the Dream Team – winning four successive domestic titles and, finally, the Champions League.

The single problem was that that talent was only one side of Laudrup’s make-up. As Brian Glanville perfectly summed up, he was “an attacker of tremendous, fluent gifts but slightly suspect temperament.”

In that, Laudrup seemed to personify the fantastic but fragile Danish side of the mid-80s. Indeed, Cruyff had only signed him because of a period of relative failure in Italy. His predecessor Michel Platini, for example, argued at the time that Laudrup was “one of the biggest talents ever and the best in the world on the training pitch, but never used his talent to its full during matches.”

And, on signing for Barcelona, one of the club’s vice-presidents even asked “how can we buy a player who has not triumphed in Italy?”

Laudrup would make that vice-president eat his words. But even Cruyff came to echo them.

“I will not denigrate Laudrup. He was and is a very good player. I myself bought him from Italy when everyone had written off… but he is one of the most difficult players I have worked with. When he gives 80-90% he is still by far the best. But I want 100% and he rarely does that.”

The pity is that, when he did, he was up there with the best. Just not often enough.

Ability 88
International 70
Club 77
Total 78.33

 

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Jejdjjd
Jejdjjd

Maldini 52?! Are you on crack? Greatest about this list is that CRonaldo isnt there. Finally someone who understands football.

The best 10 are Messi Ronaldinho Zidane Maldini Pele Maradona Baresi Xavi Iniesta Rivaldo

SKull
SKull

I'm so tired of the Pele nagging. He counts goals he scored in the Brazilian army and is a greedy sellout. More than enough reason to put Maradona above him. A true rebel and creative genius.


PS: Van Basten, Bergkamp, Ibrahimovic, Giggs, Voller, Socrates, Zico, Eder, Junior, Batistuta, Montero, Totti, CR7, Nesta, Roberto Carlos. I can list people who probably need to be on this list for quite some time here.

tk753
tk753

pele should be number 1 by far,the most complete player ever,this guy jumps like Michael Jordan,amazing speed,use both lengs, dribbling,passing shoot acurancy,the guy has it all.3 wc.,over 1000 goals the best by far.maradona dribble past 5 English players who are very slow and not so great,he maradona dint play with best players???hahaha, he had careca who score 91 goals in year,what special is maradona,because he play with week teams and win championships? big deal, messi and Ronaldo they can take the worst team or club of any country and they can win championships like maradona

andyzidane
andyzidane

@tk753 Did Pele really score over 1000 goals? Really?? 


"messi and Ronaldo they can take the worst team or club of any country and they can win championships" Again, really?? When did this happen?


It's debatable to name at least 2 Brazilians being 'better' than Pele. I don't think anyone could name 2 Argentinians being 'better' than Maradona.

tk753
tk753

@andyzidane @tk753  messi takes the argentina to the final in wc 2014,just like maradona in 1990,ronaldo take portogal to the final in euro 2016 and win the title,so how you say that this not happen?Ronaldo and messi prove that they can take the worst teams and win world titles,maradona dribbling past these England players so easy because they are not top class defenders and you can say that goal is the goal of the centrury?messi and pele dribbling past 5 or 6 players every time and far better dribblers tha maradona.also in Napoli maradona have players like careca di Napoli who are world class at the time,so how maradona wins everything of his own?

andyzidane
andyzidane

@tk753 @andyzidane

Messi didn't win though, did he? Maradona did.

C. Ronaldo won the Euros (and he wasn't on the pitch!), not a World Cup. The South American equivalent is the Copa America. Pele never won that.


"you can say that goal is the goal of the centrury?"

When did I say this?


I never said Napoli didn't have world class players? I'd probably put Ferrara and Zola ahead of Careca and Di Napoli, but never mind. Look at it in the context of the competition. Napoli had AC Milan, Juventus, Roma, and Inter to contend with. Messi and Ronaldo just have to worry about each other's teams (Barca / Madrid).

tk753
tk753

@andyzidane @tk753  ok,messi dint win the wc,but don't forget,he has a last chances to win the wc 2018,at the age of 31 like pele in  the 1970 wc.maybe I was wrong about the goal of the centrury,you dint say that,sorry.



maradona won some titles with Napoli, but he never won a champions league with Napoli,that say you something?


did maradona win the copa America? no



did maradona win the wc 1990? his performance was great like wc 86? no



maradonoa has played the same position like pele, did he scores more goals than pele? no



maradona is one of the best players ever, no doubt but because he take Napoli and argetina to the top, dosent mean that pele cant do that.its insane,pele was the most complete number 10

of all time.far more complete player than maradona and a better person than maradona

.

andyzidane
andyzidane

@tk753 @andyzidane hey Harry, thanks for the reply.


First things first, I think it's pointless comparing honours at international level.

Neither Pele nor Maradona won the Copa America. So what?

Messi does have more chances to win the World Cup, I hope he does. But even if he doesn't, he's still one of the greatest. I could accept people calling him the greatest when he retires.

Maradona didn't win the WC in 1990. So? I didn't say he did? The fact is, he dragged Argentina to the finals of '86 and '90. He won it when he was the best player in the world, and 4 years later, he was unfit, and didn't deserve to win it anyway.

Pele is credited with 3 World Cup victories, but let's not forget that he barely played in 1962.


Secondly, Maradona and Pele DID NOT play in the same position. Pele is a forward. A goalscorer. Maradona is a playmaker. He makes goals.


Everybody is entitled to their opinion, and that's what makes the game of football we all love. Pele was a great footballer and you believe he's the most complete player that ever lived. I respect that. I can agree that he has an abundance of physical attributes which make him more effective than Maradona. But technical ability? He's no better than Garrincha in his day, and he's certainly not got the technique of Diego Maradona or modern day Leo Messi.


Good night.

tk753
tk753

@andyzidane @tk753 ho is harry??? maybe you must be thinking about someone else, i see someone in the site with the name harry ho was a ''love'' with pele but dosent mean that i am that guy,i share you.



You are right, pele and maradona is a contest with no winner, everyone has there own opinion, some people say that Ronaldo, messi, zidane, Brazilian Ronaldo, cruyff are the greatest  and many more. But we can agree that all these players give us the  beauty of football and so many good moments.

rishiagrawal55
rishiagrawal55

top 10 should be 


1. ronaldhinio

2. messi

3. cruyff

4. maradona

5. pele

6. zidane

7. brasilian ronaldo

8. berkamp

9. maldini

10.peter schmicel                    

Aceace1133
Aceace1133

Ronaldinho first are you stupid? Given he was a fantastic player of course but people forget one important thing about ronaldinho he only was truly great for 3-4 seasons. How good was he at AC Milan. Truth is he wasn't great at Milan he was a shadow of his former self and failed at Milan while he not even 30. Someone like zidane won was great throughout his whole years for example he comes out of retirement at the age of 34 to guide his team o the world cup final the biggest stage of them all and even after headbutting someone he was still named the best player of the fifa world cup 2006. Ronaldinho was brilliant but only for a few years that's all.

SKull
SKull

@Aceace1133 He's a Barcelona fan. What do you expect from a pig but an oink? He's probably never watched another football team play.

AlexChulkin
AlexChulkin

Good list as of 2011. Today I'd like to replace the last 8 with Xabi Alonso, Busquets, Ramos, Robben, Cristiano Ronaldo, Luis Suarez (the second one in this 100, lol), Lahm and Klose. But anyway this rating is adorable.

AlexChulkin
AlexChulkin

And Gerard Pique instead of Desailly of course. 

DaveScamper
DaveScamper

So If Messi wins 2 or 3 world cups he's gonna be the best ever. I'm sure about that.

AlexChulkin
AlexChulkin

@DaveScamper @AlexChulkin in Russia he'll be 31, in Qatar - 35. Are you sure that he'll still be the imperious figure in the Argentina team? Are you sure that the Albiceleste will be able to win 2 WCs in a row regarding the actual level of competition? 

xPhrime
xPhrime

Where THE FUCK is Hans Krankl?! He should at least be 50-30.... Also Papin should be in the list.

RizwanNazirAhmed
RizwanNazirAhmed

Are you serious???? Ronaldinho should be ATLEAST in the top 10! I can not believe that you put the most gifted player in history at 39, you put luis suarez ahead of him? You should be ashamed!!!

adamrhbrown
adamrhbrown

@RizwanNazirAhmed The Luis Suarez on this list is the Spanish one from the 1960s. And if Ronaldinho was 'the most gifted player in history', shouldn't his era as the best player in the world been a lot longer than 2 years?


In any case, the list is nearly 4 years old and needs updating, but it looks as though Miguel has abandoned the project, which is a shame.

baggio1994
baggio1994

Bobby Moore so far down and Platini? Really now...Laudrup(as good as he was) and Sandro Mazzola better than Baggio. Which wino picks these?


baggio1994
baggio1994

A flawed list....firstly: baggio can't be 60 odd and below some of those people ahead of him(trophies aren't skills) and Maradona can't be above Pele(how can Pele's international rating be 84.  to Maradona's 89 even if you do give him a 1% nod over Pele in ability). Plus remember ability is not just dribbling and control(areas I do rate Maradona above Pele in). Ability should mean total: Pele was two-footed and better in the area, equal or almost in passing and free-kicks etc. Pele first. Messi not in top ten(most over-rated ever). Baggio in top ten.

Davidoss08
Davidoss08

Can this list be updated? I'm curious to see if CR7 has made it and where he fits in.

RodrigoBasques
RodrigoBasques

guys pele has done everythinng right in his carreer you seem to forget the hand of god goal him smelling cocaine and giving it to children and maradona vs romario romario completely mugged him off he says he could get past anybody wouldnt even be able to get past my 3 year old cousin

andyzidane
andyzidane

@RodrigoBasques Pele was a great ambassador for the sport. A superb footballer. But why highlight factors about Maradona which have nothing to do with his ability? At least Diego had the balls / cojones to play in (and win) European football.


Interesting that you mention Romario, though. I would prefer him in my team ahead of Pele. And Ronaldo. And Garrincha.

Tanvir 86
Tanvir 86

Well if you are an Englishmen then you cannot possibly understand why people love a rebel and hate an establishment.. Someone from a third world country can understand that very easily.. Someone from Latin America can precisely define it... but Europeans and Yankees cannot even imagine it... i will save the history lesson for another time..

 

Apart from having a very close relationship with Military dictators and FIFA's crooked bastards,, Pele did one thing for which many brazilians despise him-- HE FORGOT HIS ROOTS... he forgot where he came from,, he forgot the slum where he was brought up,, he forgot the shanties and hoodlums of Rio.. you say he is not evil.. Millions and Millions of people attended Garrincha's funeral in 1983...where was Pele??? Where was garrincha's great teammate??? Pele wasn't playing in 1983 oh no,, he retired in 1977..  Instead of attending his teammate's funeral,, Pele was busy in cuddling with his new buddies in FIFA..he was busy shaking hands with Reagan and the Queen ,Pele felt that it was more important to meet with these famous people rather than attending the funeral of his beloved teammate.. and you still DARE to say that Pele is not evil??????

 

Yes Pele did dedicate a goal to the poor childrens of brazil.. Hypocrites say very bright things at the beginning but in the end they give nothing... Pele did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for the poverty of Brazil.. Pele was a lover of luxurious things.. he ran away to USA in 1974,, he starred a film with Stallione and launched his own video game in 1980.. he simply CHOSE to forgot about these poor childrens.. Once Pele climbed the ladder of fame,, he never even looked back at his native Brazil...

 

You can even see it today.. Millions of brazilians are in the streets protesting the corruption of this current government.. Millions of dollars are being invested for the World Cup but none in Healthcare.. Romario and Rivaldo understood the pulse of the people and they are already preparing to start a historic revolution in brazil to overthrow this crooked bastards.. but is PELE saying?? he is saying that People "should leave the streets and go back home and not create any chaos.The government is doing the right thing".. It INFURIATED the brazilians masses like wildfire.. Pele has become so distanced from his own people that he cannot even understand their pulse..

 

Di Stefano wasn't born in a slum like Garrincha,Pele,Maradona,Rivaldo,Romario.. Di Stefano had european descent and ultimately,, he fled to Europe to serve his forefathers.. He was born rich and he never cared for the poor.. In his playing days,, Di stefano didn't like Didi at all because he was from a very poor background.. that was reason why Real Madrid always kept Didi at bench while Stefano was running the show.. i never liked Di stefano but also i cannot disagree that he is one of the greatest in history..

 

Then you may ask that why do I Hate Pele So much???   I hate him so much because I LOVED him so much.. Before i knew about Pele's cuddling with FIFA and other bastards,, I loved Pele just like Garrincha, just like Maradona, just like Rivaldo, just Ronaldinho.. After all,, they all grew up in the dirtiest of slums.. i was six years old when Maradona was tearing apart the English in 1986 and from then on i started to dig the history to find players having a similar background to maradona.. i found Garrincha and Pele and while Pele was with FIFA,, i was not aware of that at that time.. Many years later when i did found out about Pele's real Face,, i was very shocked indeed.. Just like when Figo betrayed barca and went to Madrid,, Barca fans wrote in a banner-- "We Hate you so much because We loved you so much".. it was exactly my feeling with Pele..and while i continued to agree that he was one of the greatest in history along with Maradona and Garrincha,, i lost all the love for him..

 

Garrincha's tale is a sad one but he came to this planet to give joy to his people through the means of football and his people received the joy with open arms.. he only understood the language of football and he didn't even know the format of the 1958 and 62 World Cups.. the chilean newspaper rightfully said: "Which planet is Garrincha from??" We may not know that ever again but Brazil's love for him refuses to die........................................................................

snakehips
snakehips

Good time to remember Tom Finney.Very few would have seen him play.But not only brilliant - dazzling speed + goals + loyal to one club.But a gentleman off the pitch as well.

Tanvir 86
Tanvir 86

30 years has passed since Garrincha died..  Yet the brazilians always says "We always label the rising stars as the Next Pele because we know there will always be ONE garrincha".. Many Latin American Poets were absolutely fascinated by the miracles feats that Garrincha conjured everyday.. the great Eduardo Galeano said these words:

"In the entire history of football no one made more people happy. When he was out there, the pitch was a circus ring, the ball a tamed animal, the match a party invitation. Garrincha nurtured his pet, the ball, and together they created such mischief that people almost died laughing. He jumped over it, it gambolled around him, hid itself away, skipped off and made him run after it. And on the way, his opponents ran into each other."

 

Manuel Francisco dos Santos aka GARRINCHA--the most beloved brazilian player of all time......

 

 

adamrhbrown
adamrhbrown

 @Tanvir 86 Pele and Garrincha provide an interesting personality contrast, but I still don't get why you feel people should automatically love the rebel and hate the establishment figure. Why wouldn't the vast majority of Brazilians love both of them? (Those who remember them at least.) It would be like Argentine fans loving Maradona and hating Messi or English fans loving Paul Gascoigne and hating Bobby Charlton.

adamrhbrown
adamrhbrown

 @snakehips  @Tanvir 86 Thanks. It's also worth mentioning that even if Pele could be said to have cuddled up to the military dictatorship, why does di Stefano never come in for the same vitriol from Mr. T? He was used by Franco's regime in much the same way, and he wasn't even Spanish!

 

As it happens, I watched the documentary Pele and Garrincha - Gods of Brazil a couple of days ago. It made the point that Garrincha wasn't always popular while he was actually alive, certainly in the latter part of his career.

 

Plus, there was the footage of Pele scoring his '1,000th goal'. Media myth or not, he took that moment to speak out - passionately - on behalf of starving children. Hardly the words of someone who had sold his soul entirely.

 

Don't get me wrong, Pele is a bit of a corporate whore (there's even a joke in The Simpsons about it), but he's not evil.

 

By the way, 'Menotti didn't pick Maradona because he was a Pele-lover'. What a bizarre statement. Clearly, he was very much a Didi man.

andyzidane
andyzidane

@adamrhbrown @snakehips the boy @Tanvir 86 's posts have been littered with bizarre comments for many many months now. I personally believe that Maradona is the greatest footballer of all time and prefer other Brazilians (such as Ronaldo) to Pele; but everyone is entitled to their own opinion without facing Tubby's abuse.

snakehips
snakehips

This is about the greatest 100 players of all time.

So why has the Pele v Maradona debate dominated virtually all comments so far?

It has become tedious + looks like the writers of these posts don't know any other players.

 

Sansho
Sansho

Pelé easily the greatest ever, ahead of the master of total football Cruyff. Maradona has benefited from myths and ignoring his faults and failures.

 

Before Pelé, Brazil had never won a world cup nor did they for 24 years without him. He was outstanding aged 17 in 58 world cup as well as in 1970. He made Santos the best club in the world, dominating Brazilian clubs with other great players and destroying the top European clubs, Benfica (hat-trick in Benfica), and Milan. He was top scorer in the Intercontinental Cup. In his time, South American clubs were easily a match for European. He had a magnificent scoring record in cup finals as well as overall, including against European clubs and countries. He was declared a national treasure by the Brazilian government, not allowed to play for as foreign club till the 70s

 

Maradona was sent off in one world cup, cheated in another and was disgraced in another, He had a poor scoring record in cup finals and for Napoli in Europe. He never won the top continental cup. Without him during his career Argentina won a world cup and the Copa America twice, but he never won the Copa America. He improved Argentina's win-loss record by only 0.8% compared with his absence during his career, whereas Pelé improved Brazil by 11.25%.

 

Pelé was a more complete player; great header, athletic, 2-footed, passer, shot, dribbler, vision; Maradona was mainly one-footed- so much for so-called technique. Pelé had a better temperament and Maradona was a cheat not only with infamous handball "goal" but also drugs.

Tanvir 86
Tanvir 86

 @Sansho DID PELE EVER WIN COPA AMERICA???????? PELE WASN'T SENT OFF IN ANY GAME?????????? WAS MARADONA A STIRIKER LIKE PELE???????????

 

i don't have the patience to argue with another maradona-hater like you... i will only say that you have never watched GARRINCHA... Pele doesn't come even close..

Tanvir 86
Tanvir 86

 @Sansho do you even know the full of history of maradona??????????????

 

you talk like you are a great analyst but instead have a relentless grudge against maradona..

 

first, maradona was very unlucky to miss out on the 1978 WC.. he was the even younger than pele and he ripping everything in the argentine league.. but for some  reasons, menotti didn't chose him.. as menotti was an eternal Pele-lover, he feared that his darling's record of the youngest player to enter the WC will be broken if maradona is chosen.. at the final moment, menotti leaves out the blistering 16-year old maradona.... the whole argentina was shocked... but maradona didn't lose hope.. in came the 1979 youth WC, where maradona absolutely ripped everything by scoring 7 magnificent goals and winning it single-handedly.. just like pele in the late 50s, maradona was the greatest under-20 player in the late 70s..so to say maradona was a "ghost" in his youth is a pure indication of HATRED towards him..

 

maradona 82's appearance was bad because of that HAGGARD menotti's reluctance and egoistic passarella's ARROGANCE.. it was never maradona's fault.. he was a victim of those dirty "football" politics which was also why barca's president Nunez refused to play him in regular La liga matches..and let's not forget, maradona got injured by the WORST TACKLE OF ALL TIME by the butcher of bilbao which further increased doubts and rumors about maradona..

 

but maradona BURIED everything in 1986.. scored the GREATEST GOAL MANKIND HAS EVER WITNESSED on 22 June 1986, Azteca stadium.. not only did he dribble past half the english team, he controlled the ball superbly on the puddles of water on that pitch.. even more mind-boggling is that he accelerated at such a blistering pace on the right side of field, ordinary left-footers find it difficult to run in the right-side, but instead of slowing down, maradona accelerated with lightining pace and dribbled effortlessly past the english to score an absolutely legendary goal that took him to very pinnacle of football.. it was THE ULTIMATE EXPRESSION of how far an individual player's impact goes on his team.. and throughout the whole 86 WC, maradona emphatically proved what a ONE-MAN team can do...

 

pele protagonist??????????? i assume you have never heard of Vava,garrincha,amarildo,tostao,carlos alberto, gerson,rivelino... pele's golden teammates who helped him SO MUCH... who did maradona play with????? burruchaga,careca,giordino,valdano.. maradona's average-ish teammates who couldn't even dribble past a player properly let alone helping maradona...

 

The list of footballers who said maradona is the greatest and infinity:

 

Zidane: the greatest ever

 

2: Careca: admiteas was far better than pele

 

3: Bobby Charlton: the greatest footballer

 

4: Gullit: he was from another world

 

5: Marco van Basten: The Greatest footballer ever

 

6: Former manager of england bobby robson: hate him or love him he was the greatest player of all time.

 

7: Zola: he was the god of football

 

8: Ronaldhino: hes was my idol and greatest

 

9: won player of the century at fifa 2000 awards

 

11: Ze Roberto and R. Carlos: Maradona was without doubt the greatest

 

12: Bearzot: Maradona is football

 

13: Sacchi on sky: Maradona is the best player in the world

 

14: Baggio: Maradona all players dream

 

15: gentile: Maradona better than Pelè

 

16: Boscov: Maradona can not be compared

 

17: Sivori: maradona the best in the world

 

18: Cantona: Maradona is greatest art.The

 

19: Eusebio: Maradona was the greatest

 

20: Maldini: Maradona is Maradona

 

– "Ruud Gullit: Diego Maradona is the best ever in my opinion". goal.com, 29 July 2012 – "Lionel Messi: Diego Maradona is the greatest of all-time". SoccerAnchor, 7 September 2011 – "Rummenigge: Maradona better than Pele". The Times of India, 12 November 2008 – "Paolo Maldini: Maradona best ever, Ronaldo close second" Paolo Maldini fan page, 21 July 2008 – "Gary Lineker: Diego has been the best player without a doubt, better than Pele" SoccerBlog, 25 March 2006 – "Glenn Hoddle: Diego Maradona is the greatest player of all time". SoccerBible, 22 July 2010. – "Ryan Giggs: Maradona is the best of all time". tribalfootball, 11 October 2011. – "Rio Ferdinand: In my eyes Maradona is the best footballer ever". fifa.com, 7 November 2008 – "Mario Kempes: Maradona is absolutely the best". ESPN soccernet, 18 April 2005. – "Aguero: It is disrespectful to compare me to Maradona". Mirro Football, 20 November 2011. – "Frank McGarvey: Diego Maradona was world's best player". Daily Record, 30 October 2008. – "Gordon Smith: Maradona was the best player I ever saw play the game". Daily Record, 30 October 2008. – "Trevor Edwards: Maradona is best" Central Telegraph, 11 April 2012 – "Maradona’s still number one". The Sun, 29 April 2011. – "Considered by many as the greatest football player to have ever walked the face of the earth". FIFA.com

 

 

berdutzalin
berdutzalin

@Tanvir 86 @Sansho was about to wrote smthing similar after reading lots of these pro pele comments.

Yes,pele has the numbers besides him,but you can't compare carlos alberto''s brazil golden team with maradona's underdogs argentina.

Maradona undercome the odds everywhere he went,carrying his team mostly in crucial matches. He had not so easy career as pele,cause of injuries,drug addiction,and lower teammates.

What maradona did overall,pure genius.

Personally,i admire zidane's plays the most,cause he was my childhood idol so it's not about taking sides or smthing.

Also i believe Gherghe Hagi should be at least me

ntioned here.

Tanvir 86
Tanvir 86

Today is undoubtedly a sad day for football.. The greatest Portuguese player in history, the black Panther, a man who reinvented the art of scoring goals in the 1960s-- Eusebio has passed away from this world at the age of 71...

 

He stamped Portugal's name in the football map with his explosive goals in the 1966 WC... At that WC, much of the world was disappointed with Pele's epic failure but Eusebio exploded just at the right time to fill up the vacuum.. obviously, eusebio remained in Pele's shadows for the most of 60s,, but his domination in the European Cup was second to none.. and for that,, he remains an unfettering figure in the golden history of football..in my list of 100 greatest players,, he is no.12

 

May peace rest upon his Departed Soul............................................

ronaldofenomenon
ronaldofenomenon

with all the respect to maradona he is one of the greatest ever but  pele was better. if you look some old videos of pele was amazing,his dribbling,ball control and shoot was much better than maradona, who forgot the match against uruguay 1970 world cup pele performed the best skill ever.yes maradona win the biggest poll of fifa, but was voted by young fans who dont see pele play,in the other hand pele wins win the poll  by lengendery players who wins golden balls, if you dont believe watch here http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/best-x-players-of-y.html. its funny some compare the poll of maradona and the poll of pele WHY??? because  these footballers who are legends of these sport knows far more tons than football fans.

Tanvir 86
Tanvir 86

 @ronaldofenomenon i do remember the MISS OF THE CENTURY when the "Almighty Pele" did everything right against uruguay but then failed to score an OPEN goal.. When maradona dribbled against england,, nothing was open yet he still scored and that also against a 6'3 Shilton covering the goal..if pele scored on that night in 1970 then he MIGHT have reached the level of maradona but unfortunately that never happened..

 

why don't you see the even older videos of garrincha??? that will make pele look like a ball boy..

 

obviously,, "Legendary" players like Beckenbeur,Platini shared the same bed with pele in FIFA so it no surprise that FIFA would honour their favorite poster boy with that hilarious award.. Legendary players like Di Stefano,Bearzot,Baresi,Maldini who stayed far away from FIFA's A$$ said that Maradona was greater than pele.. so you decide which group of Legend's comments are you going to approve??? the fans already gave their verdict quite emphatically in three Worldwide polls.......

 

 

ronaldofenomenon
ronaldofenomenon

 @Tanvir 86 Alfredo Di Stefano: "The best player ever? Pele. Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo are both great players with specific qualities, but Pele was better."  your propaganda agaist pele is amazing,first off all you dont have proves that pele kiss  the ass of fifa. in a tv show, maradona and pele show there skills who has better heeding, pele beats maradona, if you dont bealave watch here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSRz3IZKhUg.all the legends like cruyff,Beckenbeur,di stefano voted pele and maradona voted by the fans.end of story

ronaldofenomenon
ronaldofenomenon

 @andyzidane  @Tanvir 86 maybe you dont understand my worlds, the video shows that pele has better ball control and proves his better that maradona,yes maradona is one of the best ever but pele is better, just  symple if you watch the video

Tanvir 86
Tanvir 86

 @ronaldofenomenon HAHAHAHA.... what a pathetic video.. oh wow, a 73-year old pele has better ball control than a 53-year old Maradona,, so that makes him a greater player????????????!!!!!!!

 

Pele himself said DiStefano is the greatest player of all time... Messi?? Cristiano Ronaldo??? even a 10-year old boy having an average knowledge about football history will say that Pele is greater than these two.. But when it was asked to Distefano about Pele AND maradona,, He picked Maradona... Beckenbeur shares the bed with pele in FIFA and they also ran Viagra campaigns together.. so it is a no-brainer that beckenbeur would vote for his lifetime partner.. the legends who were not slaves to FIFA ,,they all said that maradona is the greatest..

 

You can now masturbate by watching that hilarious video.. Trolls like you have no place in this great site...

ronaldofenomenon
ronaldofenomenon

 @Tanvir 86 this show was the year 2000 maradona was 40 and pele was 60, you  blame maradona every time,the video show that maradona lose the ball and again you said that maradona is greater than pele,you said that pele kiss the ass off fifa and all the biggest football organizations but you dont prove it,if you watch the brazilian ronaldo dribbble skills and technique is far more better than maradona,i think the only part that maradona is better than pele is the free kicks.

Tanvir 86
Tanvir 86

 @ronaldofenomenon  you are that same troll by the name of Harry1996,,, changing names won't hide your retarded character..

 

as i've said many times before,, if you love pele so much then give him a call.. Make love with him using the cheapest viagras and then post the videos on youtube.. this site is for those people who can debate both subjectively and objectively using their vast knowledge about the rich history of football and not by posting pathetic rubbish youtube videos.. thus, you are not eligible to comment on this site by default..So stop wasting time and make that call to Pele before he runs to FIFA to sleep with Beckenbeur....

 

Tanvir 86
Tanvir 86

 @ronaldofenomenon  you are that same troll by the name of Harry1996,,, changing names won't hide your retarded character..

 

as i've said many times before,, if you love pele so much then give him a call.. Make love with him using the cheapest viagras and then post the videos on youtube.. this site is for those people who can debate both subjectively and objectively using their vast knowledge about the rich history of football and not by posting pathetic rubbish youtube videos.. thus, you are not eligible to comment on this site by default..So stop wasting time and make that call to Pele before he runs to FIFA to sleep with Beckenbeur....

ronaldofenomenon
ronaldofenomenon

 @Tanvir 86  again and again you dont aswer in my question about pele kiss the ass of fifa and you fall to see in this symple video that maradona lose,you can talk trash every time but you dont proove nothing,1970 pele do the greatest skill ever, maranona never do something like that,in the era off pele, the ball was more harder to control than maradona era,who is harry1996, maybe someone who support pele?i dont give a shit.i just say my option,but there are more important thinks in life about pele and maradona

ronaldofenomenon
ronaldofenomenon

 @Tanvir 86 maybe my english is not so good  but  you cant avoid the truth,cruyff,beckebauer,platini,di stefano,zico said pele, all this players kiss the ass of fifa?hahahaha.you can say anything you want but you dont proove a thing.

nismoz
nismoz

 @ronaldofenomenon  @Tanvir 86 @ Ronaldofenomenon, instead of judging a players true strength based on other retired footballers comments, why dont u use ur brain and watch the standard of football in Pele's era? did u ever ask urself the question if gk even used gloves back in the 60s? did 4-2-4 formation play a major factor in helping the attacking team? did man marking even exist back then? have u even watched a game of the champs league in the 60s? how many subs were allowed in each game when pele was playing? how many games did Pele really played in 1962 wc? when u find out all the answers for that question i suggest u watch the serie a matches that Maradona played in Napoli in the late 80s and do a serious comparison on the defence both players faced! Real Madrid could win 5 champs league in the late 50s but no team has even come close to it since. what does that tell u? Football standards has gone up 3 notch since Pele's days!