The 100 greatest players of all time

Casillas saves against Robben

Iker Casillas readies himself to rise to the occasion for the most important save of his career

80. Matthias Sammer

Career span 1985-98
Country East Germany: 23 caps, 6 goals; Germany 51 caps, 8 goals
Clubs Dynamo Dresden, VfB Stuttgart, Inter, Borussia Dortmund
Position sweeper, central midfielder
Medals 1 European Championship, 1 Champions League, 5 domestic titles (3 German, 2 East German), 3 domestic cups (2 German, 1 East German)

Once the core of the World Cup-winning squad had waned, the 90s were something of a bleak decade for the German national team: two quarter-final defeats and a dismal Euro 2000. But there was one exception. And it came about because manager Berto Vogts made one himself.

In January 1995, Lothar Matthaus tore his Achilles tendon. Previously a complete midfielder, the German captain had withdrawn to a less convincing sweeper role. So, in the Euro 96 qualifiers, Vogts got to chance to put Borussia Dortmund’s burgeoning star back there – Sammer.

Immediately, the German team kept up a higher level of performance. And Sammer kept his place at the expense of Matthaus.
There can be little doubt that Sammer was the most capable German sweeper after Franz Beckenbauer. But, as Uli Hesse argues in Tor!, “in some respects he was even better”.

“While he lacked Beckenbauer’s elegance and finesse, he brought a fiery determination to the job, complemented by a readiness to take risks.”

In essence, Sammer had what all of football’s great leaders do – an ability to raise the level of performance from all of those around him, be it through inspiration, motivation or even example.

And that overarching influence was best illustrated in his emphatic displays at Euro 96.

“Whenever Germany got into trouble,” Hesse wrote, “Sammer stepped up a gear and did more than was asked of him.”

He broke the deadlock against Russia with a brilliant surging run, before striking the winner against Croatia in the quarter-finals.

In the following season’s victorious Champions League campaign, he was equally effective. Indeed, Ottmar Hitzfeld essentially built Borrusia Dortmund’s best ever era on his brilliant sweeper. A telling moment came in September 1995, as the new German champions were struggling at Eintracht Frankfurt. Sammer caught Hitzfeld’s eye, looking for approval to alter things. The manager, possessing implicit trust in his captain’s judgement, nodded. Sammer immediately moved forward and pushed through a 4-3 from a quasi-playmaker role.

As teammate Paul Lambert explained, “everyone in Germany assures me Sammer is the best libero since Beckenbauer. I’m not surprised. Pound for pound the best player in Europe.”

Injury, unfortunately, prevented him emphasising it. But Sammer had already achieved an awful lot.

Ability 81
International 72
Club 77
Total 76.3

 

79. Velibor Vasovic

Career span 1958-71
Country Yugoslavia: 32 caps, 2 goals
Clubs Partizan Belgrade, Red Star Belgrade, Partizan Belgrade, Ajax
Position sweeper
Medals 1 European Cup, 7 domestic titles (4 Yugoslavia, 3 Dutch), 3 Dutch cups

For a time, it seemed that Velibor Vasovic’s talent would never quite get its rightful reward at the very top level. Having his seen his international career just miss two of Yugoslavia’s greatest campaigns – the run to the 1962 World Cup semi-final and Euro 68 final appearance – he then scored ultimately irrelevant goals in two losing European Cup finals: 1966 and 1969.

In truth, though, such experiences carved out the kind of building block on which Rinus Michels could construct his grand design. “Michels was the architect of Total Football,” Vasivoc himself said. “And I helped him the most.”

The Serbian sweeper certainly wasn’t modest. But then others argued he was just realistic. Certainly, Vasovic’s abrasiveness, ability and – most importantly – intelligence gave Ajax an edge they were previously missing when he arrived in 1966.

At 10 years older than Johan Neeskens and nine years older than Johan Cruyff, his nous complemented their nascent ability. Firstly, through example. “I did small things, like make an offside or stand in the wall to make a gap for goals. When you see examples from other players on the field, you learn a hundred times better than in training. In that way I was able to make a lot of changes at Ajax, which was a very young team at that time.”

Secondly, through influence. Just like classic captains such as Matthias Sammer and Roy Keane, Vasovic imposed his will on teams. “I was a winner all my life,” he typically explained to David Winner. “I could not understand why we would play a game in which we lose four kilos of bodyweight for nothing. When you put on your shirt and lace up your boots, you have to win… With such a character I was very helpful to the Dutch players because they were not naturally like that.”

Ruud Krol, for example, admitted he “tried to think and move like Vasovic. I learned a lot from him. He was the conductor.”
But, finally, there was Vasovic’s acumen. His football intelligence helped Michels put the final touches to his plan. With Ajax already experimenting with interchanging positions, the manager noticed that Neesken’s feral hunting and Vasovic’s natural inclination to step up and squeeze the space all enhanced the improvisation. And so the pressing game was born. “We discussed it, me and Michels, the aggressive way of defending.”

And, so, in 1971, Vasovic finally lifted the European Cup. And a dynasty began.

Ability 82
International 65
Club 82
Total 76.33

 

78. Armando Picchi

Career span 1954-69
Country Italy: 12 caps
Clubs Livorno, SPAL, Inter, Varese
Position libero
Medals 2 European Cups, 3 Italian titles

In a country famed for producing defenders, it’s saying something that the annual award for Serie A’s best back is named after Armando Picchi.

The oddity, however, is that he only ever got 12 caps for his country. Although that was entirely down to politics and injury as opposed to any doubts about his ability. Because Picchi was undeniably one of the best. His omission from the 1966 World Cup squad over a “tactical dispute” resulted in an Italian cause celebre. Then, just as he had cemented his place in the team for the early games of the victorious Euro 68 campaign, he fractured his pelvis.

By that point, however, Picchi had already conquered the continent. Repeatedly. As one of the first true liberos, Picchi was the lynchpin of Helenio Herrera’s immense Inter team of the ’60s. The great Italian football writer Gianni Brera described him as a “defensive director… his passes were never random, his vision superb”.

Picchi was also one of the first on-pitch managers, and among the only players to openly challenge Herrera. He once told his authoritarian coach to “fuck of”. It was possibly that which lead to his early departure in 1967.

But it was also telling that Inter’s era of success went with him.

Ability 83
International 64
Club 82
Total 76.33

 

77. David Villa

Career span 1999-
Country Spain: 78 caps, 49 goals
Clubs Sporting Gijon, Zaragoza, Valencia, Barcelona
Position forward
Medals 1 World Cup, 1 European Championship, 1 Champions League, 1 Spanish title, 2 Spanish cups

Too high? Well just count up all of the goals. Since the day he made his debut for Sporting Gijon B in 1999, David Villa has been ruthlessly prolific with an average of a goal every two games. It is by no means an exaggeration to argue he has been the dominant centre-forward of the last half-decade. For one thing, nine of his 300+ goals came as he top-scored in two victorious international tournaments – Euro 2008 and the 2010 World Cup. Have golden boots ever had such actual significance?

And, although he suffered something of a striking slump for Barcelona last season (while still scoring 18 goals in 34 league games as well as the clincher in the Champions League), Villa’s mercury movement still ensured Barcelona maintained momentum. When he signed in the summer of 2010, it was hard to think of a more perfect transfer. Villa’s fluidity perfectly suited Barca’s finesse. As Johan Cruyff argued, “Villa is not only there to finish plays. He is synonymous with depth. It means always being ready to open passing lanes, to draw defenders and thus freeing space for others.”

Villa did much more than free space in South Africa, though. He freed Spain. As the Vicente Del Bosque’s side surprisingly toiled in the early rounds, Villa applied his ability to drive Spain through. First with a glorious openers in anxious games against Honduras and Chile, then with the solitary strikes against Portugal and Paraguay.

The goals made him Spain’s all-time top scorer. And one of the most productive forwards of all time.

Ability 80
International 77
Club 73
Total 76.67

 

76. Dixie Dean

Career span 1923-39
Country England: 16 caps, 18 goals
Clubs Tranmere Rovers, Everton, Notts County, Sligo Rovers
Position striker
Medals 2 league titles, 1 FA Cup

When an Italian soldier was captured by British forces on the African front in the second world war, he allegedly told his captors “fuck your Winston Churchill and fuck your Dixie Dean”. Such was the fame of all the forward’s goals.

Dean was, essentially, the archetypal modern striker. Celebrated for his heading ability, he was the first forward to wear the number nine and enjoyed one of the most spectacular and sustained strike rates in the history of the game: 425 goals in 489 games as well as 18 in 16 caps for England.

Having set a record with 60 league goals in Everton’s victorious 1927-28 campaign, he was once asked whether it would ever be broken.

“I think it will,” he responded. “But there’s only one man who’ll do it. That’s the fellow that walks on water. I think he’s the only one.”

The record still stands.

Ability 80
International 75
Club 75
Total 76.67

 

75. Kurt Hamrin

Career span 1952-72
Country Sweden: 32 caps, 17 goals
Clubs AIK, Juventus, Padova, Fiorentina, Milan, Napoli, IFK Stockholm
Position winger
Medals 1 European Cup, 2 Cup Winners Cups, 1 Italian title, 2 Italian cups

As Sweden prepared for the World Cup they were hosting in 1958, concerned coach George Raynor observed that his side was one of the slowest in the competition. With one very significant exception: the high-speed Kurt Hamrin.

In his history of the World Cup, Brian Glanville describes the winger as “a sturdy little man with superb powers of dribbling and acceleration and the ability and courage to strike through the middle as well as from the wing”.

He would do both throughout the tournament repeatedly. In all, Hamrin scored three goals while dominating the quarter- and semi-finals against the USSR and West Germany respectively.

By then, of course, he was already one of the most sought-after players in Serie A. But he would only increase his value on joining Milan in 1967. Hamrin provided the cutting edge to Nereo Rocco’s Catenaccio. The Swede would score both goals in the 1968 Cup Winners Cup final 2-0 win over Hamburg before terrorising full-backs on the way to the European Cup the following year.

Ability 80
International 75
Club 75
Total 76.67

 

74. Nils Liedholm

Career span 1938-61
Country Sweden: 21 goals, 10 caps
Clubs Valdemarsviks IF, IK Sleipner, IFK Norrkoping, Milan
Position midfielder
Medals 6 league titles (4 Italy, 2 Sweden)

After Real Madrid had finally ousted AC Milan in the 1958 European Cup final, Alfredo Di Stefano was so impressed with Nils Liedholm’s performance that he asked the Swede to join him on a lap of honour.

“Keep it,” Liedholm responded. “That won’t matter. The only thing that will be remembered down the years is that Real Madrid won.”

Not quite. The Swede had provided a series of glorious memories in that campaign, let alone his entire career. Indeed, it was entirely appropriate that Di Stefano remembered Liedholm, in particular, once the trophy had been lifted.

Because, in truth, the Swede had been Milan’s equivalent of Di Stefano. Just as the Argentine had ended long years of frustration for Real and transformed them into a modern super club almost overnight, Liedholm had played the key role in a similar rise for the Italians.

When he arrived with compatriots Gunnar Gren and Gunnar Nordahl in 1949, the club hadn’t won a title since 1907. By 1958, they had won four in eight years and proved one of the most dominant teams in the early history of the European Cup. And, as the technical, thinking midfielder at the centre of that so-called Gre-No-Li trio, Liedholm made it all work. He also outlasted his compatriots thanks to a rigorous training regime.

At the age of 36, he was one of influential player in Sweden’s unprecedented run to the 1958 World Cup final – even scoring the opening goal in the last game.

What is most remembered from that match, of course, is Brazil’s ultimate 5-2 victory. But Liedholm ensured he will never be forgotten.

Ability 81
International 75
Club 75
Total 77

 

73. Marco Tardelli

Career span 1972-88
Country Italy: 87 caps, 7 goals
Clubs Pisa, Como, Juventus, Inter, St Gallen
Position midfielder
Medals 1 World Cup, 1 European Cup, 1 Uefa Cup, 1 Cup Winners Cup, 5 Italian titles, 2 Italian cups

He will always be known for that primal scream, the “Tardelli cry”. And that’s hardly surprising given it represented what would have been the peak of any career: a glorious, clinching goal in the World Cup final.

But, in truth, there was so much more in the Italian’s career to shout about. A truly complete midfielder in the mould of Johan Neeskens, Tardelli combined technique and intelligence with tenacity and aggression. Such was his “hard man” attitude that Jimmy Greaves once said Tardelli was “responsible for more scar tissue than the surgeons at Harefield Hospital” He undoubtedly left a lot of psychological scars on opponents, too, as he was a mainstay in the all-conquering Juventus team of the late ’70s and early ’80s. Indeed, such was the energy he gave the team that Ernst Happel realised he was the player to specifically neuter in the 1983 European Cup final. That finished 1-0 to Hamburg. But it was to be an unusual feeling for Tardelli, who won every major honour bar the European Championships.

Ability 78
International 77
Club 76
Total 77

 

72. Jimmy Johnstone

Career span 1961-79
Country Scotland: 23 caps, 2 goals
Clubs Celtic, San Jose Earthquakes, Sheffield United, Dundee, Shelbourne, Elgin City
Position winger
Medals 1 European Cup, 9 Scottish titles, 4 Scottish cups, 5 Scottish league cups

To a certain degree, Jimmy ‘Jinky’ Johnstone could be described as the Scottish George Best. They certainly shared a few parallels. To begin with – quite literally – the precocious Johnstone attracted the attention of Manchester United at the age of 13.

It was hardly surprising. For Johnstone’s dribbling ability – if not quite his all-round game – was on a par with Best’s. Most famously, he was given a standing ovation by the Bernabeu crowd after Alfredo Di Stefano’s testimonial.

More often, however, his irreverent evasiveness would inspire aggression rather than celebration. Just as Best found, embarrassed defenders were often left with no option other than to effectively assault Johnstone. A particularly unsavoury incident came in the 1973-74 European Cup semi-final when he was kicked in the testicles and three Atletico Madrid players were sent off. At the same stage of the competition four years beforehand, however, Leeds United full-back Terry Cooper had described his dissection at the feet of Johnston as “my nightmare”.

A less welcome parallel with Best, however, was that Johnstone frequently gave his own managers nightmares. So frustrated did Jock Stein become with his actions that he often dropped him – to the point that Johnstone’s own mother once complained to the Celtic manager that “you’re very hard on that wee lad”.

But Johnstone didn’t help himself. Infamously, he ended up stranded out at sea following a particularly long drinking session on the eve of the 1974 World Cup. But, while that anecdote has often been repeated, the reaction hasn’t. After Johnstone had scored both goals in a 2-0 warm-up win over England, he responded to the recent media criticism with two fingers to the press box. He was subsequently consigned to the bench for the entirety of West Germany 1974. And it was incidents like that which ensured Johnstone never enjoyed the international career he should have.

There was one crucial difference with Best, however: longevity. Johnstone rampaged down wings for much longer. Having blazed a trail in Europe in 1966-67, he was still driving Celtic to the competition’s latter stages almost a decade later.

Ability 85
International 65
Club 81
Total 77

 

71. Iker Casillas

Career span 1998-
Country Spain: 124 caps
Clubs Real Madrid
Position goalkeeper
Medals 1 World Cup, 1 European Championship, 2 Champions Leagues, 4 Spanish titles, 1 Spanish cup

It’s generally accepted that, at a blue-chip club, the main requirement for a goalkeeper is reliability and the ability to keep focus for the rare occasions in which they actually have to make a save. And Iker Casillas has certainly provided that.

But, at a club who have considered defence an afterthought for most of the last decade, the Spanish captain has also had to give so much more. Take the game in which his career at the top level truly started, for example. On as a sub in the 2002 Champions League final, a series of saves effectively secured the title. The following season, he was repeatedly “under-protected and overexposed” in an increasingly imbalanced Real Madrid. Yet it was commonly accepted that a mix of Casillas’s saves at one end and Ronaldo goals at the other was enough to win the title.

Since then, he has kept up a remarkable balance between consistency and outright quality. Indeed, the only try dip of his career came in the lead-up to the 2010 World Cup and continued into the finals themselves.

Typically, however, Casillas rose to the occasion. He pulled off that important penalty save against Paraguay in the quarter-finals before twice winning vital one-on-one duels with Arjen Robben in the final. It epitomised a career.

Ability 77
International 80
Club 75
Total 77.3

 

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Jejdjjd
Jejdjjd

Maldini 52?! Are you on crack? Greatest about this list is that CRonaldo isnt there. Finally someone who understands football.

The best 10 are Messi Ronaldinho Zidane Maldini Pele Maradona Baresi Xavi Iniesta Rivaldo

SKull
SKull

I'm so tired of the Pele nagging. He counts goals he scored in the Brazilian army and is a greedy sellout. More than enough reason to put Maradona above him. A true rebel and creative genius.


PS: Van Basten, Bergkamp, Ibrahimovic, Giggs, Voller, Socrates, Zico, Eder, Junior, Batistuta, Montero, Totti, CR7, Nesta, Roberto Carlos. I can list people who probably need to be on this list for quite some time here.

tk753
tk753

pele should be number 1 by far,the most complete player ever,this guy jumps like Michael Jordan,amazing speed,use both lengs, dribbling,passing shoot acurancy,the guy has it all.3 wc.,over 1000 goals the best by far.maradona dribble past 5 English players who are very slow and not so great,he maradona dint play with best players???hahaha, he had careca who score 91 goals in year,what special is maradona,because he play with week teams and win championships? big deal, messi and Ronaldo they can take the worst team or club of any country and they can win championships like maradona

andyzidane
andyzidane

@tk753 Did Pele really score over 1000 goals? Really?? 


"messi and Ronaldo they can take the worst team or club of any country and they can win championships" Again, really?? When did this happen?


It's debatable to name at least 2 Brazilians being 'better' than Pele. I don't think anyone could name 2 Argentinians being 'better' than Maradona.

tk753
tk753

@andyzidane @tk753  messi takes the argentina to the final in wc 2014,just like maradona in 1990,ronaldo take portogal to the final in euro 2016 and win the title,so how you say that this not happen?Ronaldo and messi prove that they can take the worst teams and win world titles,maradona dribbling past these England players so easy because they are not top class defenders and you can say that goal is the goal of the centrury?messi and pele dribbling past 5 or 6 players every time and far better dribblers tha maradona.also in Napoli maradona have players like careca di Napoli who are world class at the time,so how maradona wins everything of his own?

andyzidane
andyzidane

@tk753 @andyzidane

Messi didn't win though, did he? Maradona did.

C. Ronaldo won the Euros (and he wasn't on the pitch!), not a World Cup. The South American equivalent is the Copa America. Pele never won that.


"you can say that goal is the goal of the centrury?"

When did I say this?


I never said Napoli didn't have world class players? I'd probably put Ferrara and Zola ahead of Careca and Di Napoli, but never mind. Look at it in the context of the competition. Napoli had AC Milan, Juventus, Roma, and Inter to contend with. Messi and Ronaldo just have to worry about each other's teams (Barca / Madrid).

tk753
tk753

@andyzidane @tk753  ok,messi dint win the wc,but don't forget,he has a last chances to win the wc 2018,at the age of 31 like pele in  the 1970 wc.maybe I was wrong about the goal of the centrury,you dint say that,sorry.



maradona won some titles with Napoli, but he never won a champions league with Napoli,that say you something?


did maradona win the copa America? no



did maradona win the wc 1990? his performance was great like wc 86? no



maradonoa has played the same position like pele, did he scores more goals than pele? no



maradona is one of the best players ever, no doubt but because he take Napoli and argetina to the top, dosent mean that pele cant do that.its insane,pele was the most complete number 10

of all time.far more complete player than maradona and a better person than maradona

.

andyzidane
andyzidane

@tk753 @andyzidane hey Harry, thanks for the reply.


First things first, I think it's pointless comparing honours at international level.

Neither Pele nor Maradona won the Copa America. So what?

Messi does have more chances to win the World Cup, I hope he does. But even if he doesn't, he's still one of the greatest. I could accept people calling him the greatest when he retires.

Maradona didn't win the WC in 1990. So? I didn't say he did? The fact is, he dragged Argentina to the finals of '86 and '90. He won it when he was the best player in the world, and 4 years later, he was unfit, and didn't deserve to win it anyway.

Pele is credited with 3 World Cup victories, but let's not forget that he barely played in 1962.


Secondly, Maradona and Pele DID NOT play in the same position. Pele is a forward. A goalscorer. Maradona is a playmaker. He makes goals.


Everybody is entitled to their opinion, and that's what makes the game of football we all love. Pele was a great footballer and you believe he's the most complete player that ever lived. I respect that. I can agree that he has an abundance of physical attributes which make him more effective than Maradona. But technical ability? He's no better than Garrincha in his day, and he's certainly not got the technique of Diego Maradona or modern day Leo Messi.


Good night.

tk753
tk753

@andyzidane @tk753 ho is harry??? maybe you must be thinking about someone else, i see someone in the site with the name harry ho was a ''love'' with pele but dosent mean that i am that guy,i share you.



You are right, pele and maradona is a contest with no winner, everyone has there own opinion, some people say that Ronaldo, messi, zidane, Brazilian Ronaldo, cruyff are the greatest  and many more. But we can agree that all these players give us the  beauty of football and so many good moments.

rishiagrawal55
rishiagrawal55

top 10 should be 


1. ronaldhinio

2. messi

3. cruyff

4. maradona

5. pele

6. zidane

7. brasilian ronaldo

8. berkamp

9. maldini

10.peter schmicel                    

Aceace1133
Aceace1133

Ronaldinho first are you stupid? Given he was a fantastic player of course but people forget one important thing about ronaldinho he only was truly great for 3-4 seasons. How good was he at AC Milan. Truth is he wasn't great at Milan he was a shadow of his former self and failed at Milan while he not even 30. Someone like zidane won was great throughout his whole years for example he comes out of retirement at the age of 34 to guide his team o the world cup final the biggest stage of them all and even after headbutting someone he was still named the best player of the fifa world cup 2006. Ronaldinho was brilliant but only for a few years that's all.

SKull
SKull

@Aceace1133 He's a Barcelona fan. What do you expect from a pig but an oink? He's probably never watched another football team play.

AlexChulkin
AlexChulkin

Good list as of 2011. Today I'd like to replace the last 8 with Xabi Alonso, Busquets, Ramos, Robben, Cristiano Ronaldo, Luis Suarez (the second one in this 100, lol), Lahm and Klose. But anyway this rating is adorable.

AlexChulkin
AlexChulkin

And Gerard Pique instead of Desailly of course. 

DaveScamper
DaveScamper

So If Messi wins 2 or 3 world cups he's gonna be the best ever. I'm sure about that.

AlexChulkin
AlexChulkin

@DaveScamper @AlexChulkin in Russia he'll be 31, in Qatar - 35. Are you sure that he'll still be the imperious figure in the Argentina team? Are you sure that the Albiceleste will be able to win 2 WCs in a row regarding the actual level of competition? 

xPhrime
xPhrime

Where THE FUCK is Hans Krankl?! He should at least be 50-30.... Also Papin should be in the list.

RizwanNazirAhmed
RizwanNazirAhmed

Are you serious???? Ronaldinho should be ATLEAST in the top 10! I can not believe that you put the most gifted player in history at 39, you put luis suarez ahead of him? You should be ashamed!!!

adamrhbrown
adamrhbrown

@RizwanNazirAhmed The Luis Suarez on this list is the Spanish one from the 1960s. And if Ronaldinho was 'the most gifted player in history', shouldn't his era as the best player in the world been a lot longer than 2 years?


In any case, the list is nearly 4 years old and needs updating, but it looks as though Miguel has abandoned the project, which is a shame.

baggio1994
baggio1994

Bobby Moore so far down and Platini? Really now...Laudrup(as good as he was) and Sandro Mazzola better than Baggio. Which wino picks these?


baggio1994
baggio1994

A flawed list....firstly: baggio can't be 60 odd and below some of those people ahead of him(trophies aren't skills) and Maradona can't be above Pele(how can Pele's international rating be 84.  to Maradona's 89 even if you do give him a 1% nod over Pele in ability). Plus remember ability is not just dribbling and control(areas I do rate Maradona above Pele in). Ability should mean total: Pele was two-footed and better in the area, equal or almost in passing and free-kicks etc. Pele first. Messi not in top ten(most over-rated ever). Baggio in top ten.

Davidoss08
Davidoss08

Can this list be updated? I'm curious to see if CR7 has made it and where he fits in.

RodrigoBasques
RodrigoBasques

guys pele has done everythinng right in his carreer you seem to forget the hand of god goal him smelling cocaine and giving it to children and maradona vs romario romario completely mugged him off he says he could get past anybody wouldnt even be able to get past my 3 year old cousin

andyzidane
andyzidane

@RodrigoBasques Pele was a great ambassador for the sport. A superb footballer. But why highlight factors about Maradona which have nothing to do with his ability? At least Diego had the balls / cojones to play in (and win) European football.


Interesting that you mention Romario, though. I would prefer him in my team ahead of Pele. And Ronaldo. And Garrincha.

Tanvir 86
Tanvir 86

Well if you are an Englishmen then you cannot possibly understand why people love a rebel and hate an establishment.. Someone from a third world country can understand that very easily.. Someone from Latin America can precisely define it... but Europeans and Yankees cannot even imagine it... i will save the history lesson for another time..

 

Apart from having a very close relationship with Military dictators and FIFA's crooked bastards,, Pele did one thing for which many brazilians despise him-- HE FORGOT HIS ROOTS... he forgot where he came from,, he forgot the slum where he was brought up,, he forgot the shanties and hoodlums of Rio.. you say he is not evil.. Millions and Millions of people attended Garrincha's funeral in 1983...where was Pele??? Where was garrincha's great teammate??? Pele wasn't playing in 1983 oh no,, he retired in 1977..  Instead of attending his teammate's funeral,, Pele was busy in cuddling with his new buddies in FIFA..he was busy shaking hands with Reagan and the Queen ,Pele felt that it was more important to meet with these famous people rather than attending the funeral of his beloved teammate.. and you still DARE to say that Pele is not evil??????

 

Yes Pele did dedicate a goal to the poor childrens of brazil.. Hypocrites say very bright things at the beginning but in the end they give nothing... Pele did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for the poverty of Brazil.. Pele was a lover of luxurious things.. he ran away to USA in 1974,, he starred a film with Stallione and launched his own video game in 1980.. he simply CHOSE to forgot about these poor childrens.. Once Pele climbed the ladder of fame,, he never even looked back at his native Brazil...

 

You can even see it today.. Millions of brazilians are in the streets protesting the corruption of this current government.. Millions of dollars are being invested for the World Cup but none in Healthcare.. Romario and Rivaldo understood the pulse of the people and they are already preparing to start a historic revolution in brazil to overthrow this crooked bastards.. but is PELE saying?? he is saying that People "should leave the streets and go back home and not create any chaos.The government is doing the right thing".. It INFURIATED the brazilians masses like wildfire.. Pele has become so distanced from his own people that he cannot even understand their pulse..

 

Di Stefano wasn't born in a slum like Garrincha,Pele,Maradona,Rivaldo,Romario.. Di Stefano had european descent and ultimately,, he fled to Europe to serve his forefathers.. He was born rich and he never cared for the poor.. In his playing days,, Di stefano didn't like Didi at all because he was from a very poor background.. that was reason why Real Madrid always kept Didi at bench while Stefano was running the show.. i never liked Di stefano but also i cannot disagree that he is one of the greatest in history..

 

Then you may ask that why do I Hate Pele So much???   I hate him so much because I LOVED him so much.. Before i knew about Pele's cuddling with FIFA and other bastards,, I loved Pele just like Garrincha, just like Maradona, just like Rivaldo, just Ronaldinho.. After all,, they all grew up in the dirtiest of slums.. i was six years old when Maradona was tearing apart the English in 1986 and from then on i started to dig the history to find players having a similar background to maradona.. i found Garrincha and Pele and while Pele was with FIFA,, i was not aware of that at that time.. Many years later when i did found out about Pele's real Face,, i was very shocked indeed.. Just like when Figo betrayed barca and went to Madrid,, Barca fans wrote in a banner-- "We Hate you so much because We loved you so much".. it was exactly my feeling with Pele..and while i continued to agree that he was one of the greatest in history along with Maradona and Garrincha,, i lost all the love for him..

 

Garrincha's tale is a sad one but he came to this planet to give joy to his people through the means of football and his people received the joy with open arms.. he only understood the language of football and he didn't even know the format of the 1958 and 62 World Cups.. the chilean newspaper rightfully said: "Which planet is Garrincha from??" We may not know that ever again but Brazil's love for him refuses to die........................................................................

snakehips
snakehips

Good time to remember Tom Finney.Very few would have seen him play.But not only brilliant - dazzling speed + goals + loyal to one club.But a gentleman off the pitch as well.

Tanvir 86
Tanvir 86

30 years has passed since Garrincha died..  Yet the brazilians always says "We always label the rising stars as the Next Pele because we know there will always be ONE garrincha".. Many Latin American Poets were absolutely fascinated by the miracles feats that Garrincha conjured everyday.. the great Eduardo Galeano said these words:

"In the entire history of football no one made more people happy. When he was out there, the pitch was a circus ring, the ball a tamed animal, the match a party invitation. Garrincha nurtured his pet, the ball, and together they created such mischief that people almost died laughing. He jumped over it, it gambolled around him, hid itself away, skipped off and made him run after it. And on the way, his opponents ran into each other."

 

Manuel Francisco dos Santos aka GARRINCHA--the most beloved brazilian player of all time......

 

 

adamrhbrown
adamrhbrown

 @Tanvir 86 Pele and Garrincha provide an interesting personality contrast, but I still don't get why you feel people should automatically love the rebel and hate the establishment figure. Why wouldn't the vast majority of Brazilians love both of them? (Those who remember them at least.) It would be like Argentine fans loving Maradona and hating Messi or English fans loving Paul Gascoigne and hating Bobby Charlton.

adamrhbrown
adamrhbrown

 @snakehips  @Tanvir 86 Thanks. It's also worth mentioning that even if Pele could be said to have cuddled up to the military dictatorship, why does di Stefano never come in for the same vitriol from Mr. T? He was used by Franco's regime in much the same way, and he wasn't even Spanish!

 

As it happens, I watched the documentary Pele and Garrincha - Gods of Brazil a couple of days ago. It made the point that Garrincha wasn't always popular while he was actually alive, certainly in the latter part of his career.

 

Plus, there was the footage of Pele scoring his '1,000th goal'. Media myth or not, he took that moment to speak out - passionately - on behalf of starving children. Hardly the words of someone who had sold his soul entirely.

 

Don't get me wrong, Pele is a bit of a corporate whore (there's even a joke in The Simpsons about it), but he's not evil.

 

By the way, 'Menotti didn't pick Maradona because he was a Pele-lover'. What a bizarre statement. Clearly, he was very much a Didi man.

andyzidane
andyzidane

@adamrhbrown @snakehips the boy @Tanvir 86 's posts have been littered with bizarre comments for many many months now. I personally believe that Maradona is the greatest footballer of all time and prefer other Brazilians (such as Ronaldo) to Pele; but everyone is entitled to their own opinion without facing Tubby's abuse.

snakehips
snakehips

This is about the greatest 100 players of all time.

So why has the Pele v Maradona debate dominated virtually all comments so far?

It has become tedious + looks like the writers of these posts don't know any other players.

 

Sansho
Sansho

Pelé easily the greatest ever, ahead of the master of total football Cruyff. Maradona has benefited from myths and ignoring his faults and failures.

 

Before Pelé, Brazil had never won a world cup nor did they for 24 years without him. He was outstanding aged 17 in 58 world cup as well as in 1970. He made Santos the best club in the world, dominating Brazilian clubs with other great players and destroying the top European clubs, Benfica (hat-trick in Benfica), and Milan. He was top scorer in the Intercontinental Cup. In his time, South American clubs were easily a match for European. He had a magnificent scoring record in cup finals as well as overall, including against European clubs and countries. He was declared a national treasure by the Brazilian government, not allowed to play for as foreign club till the 70s

 

Maradona was sent off in one world cup, cheated in another and was disgraced in another, He had a poor scoring record in cup finals and for Napoli in Europe. He never won the top continental cup. Without him during his career Argentina won a world cup and the Copa America twice, but he never won the Copa America. He improved Argentina's win-loss record by only 0.8% compared with his absence during his career, whereas Pelé improved Brazil by 11.25%.

 

Pelé was a more complete player; great header, athletic, 2-footed, passer, shot, dribbler, vision; Maradona was mainly one-footed- so much for so-called technique. Pelé had a better temperament and Maradona was a cheat not only with infamous handball "goal" but also drugs.

Tanvir 86
Tanvir 86

 @Sansho DID PELE EVER WIN COPA AMERICA???????? PELE WASN'T SENT OFF IN ANY GAME?????????? WAS MARADONA A STIRIKER LIKE PELE???????????

 

i don't have the patience to argue with another maradona-hater like you... i will only say that you have never watched GARRINCHA... Pele doesn't come even close..

Tanvir 86
Tanvir 86

 @Sansho do you even know the full of history of maradona??????????????

 

you talk like you are a great analyst but instead have a relentless grudge against maradona..

 

first, maradona was very unlucky to miss out on the 1978 WC.. he was the even younger than pele and he ripping everything in the argentine league.. but for some  reasons, menotti didn't chose him.. as menotti was an eternal Pele-lover, he feared that his darling's record of the youngest player to enter the WC will be broken if maradona is chosen.. at the final moment, menotti leaves out the blistering 16-year old maradona.... the whole argentina was shocked... but maradona didn't lose hope.. in came the 1979 youth WC, where maradona absolutely ripped everything by scoring 7 magnificent goals and winning it single-handedly.. just like pele in the late 50s, maradona was the greatest under-20 player in the late 70s..so to say maradona was a "ghost" in his youth is a pure indication of HATRED towards him..

 

maradona 82's appearance was bad because of that HAGGARD menotti's reluctance and egoistic passarella's ARROGANCE.. it was never maradona's fault.. he was a victim of those dirty "football" politics which was also why barca's president Nunez refused to play him in regular La liga matches..and let's not forget, maradona got injured by the WORST TACKLE OF ALL TIME by the butcher of bilbao which further increased doubts and rumors about maradona..

 

but maradona BURIED everything in 1986.. scored the GREATEST GOAL MANKIND HAS EVER WITNESSED on 22 June 1986, Azteca stadium.. not only did he dribble past half the english team, he controlled the ball superbly on the puddles of water on that pitch.. even more mind-boggling is that he accelerated at such a blistering pace on the right side of field, ordinary left-footers find it difficult to run in the right-side, but instead of slowing down, maradona accelerated with lightining pace and dribbled effortlessly past the english to score an absolutely legendary goal that took him to very pinnacle of football.. it was THE ULTIMATE EXPRESSION of how far an individual player's impact goes on his team.. and throughout the whole 86 WC, maradona emphatically proved what a ONE-MAN team can do...

 

pele protagonist??????????? i assume you have never heard of Vava,garrincha,amarildo,tostao,carlos alberto, gerson,rivelino... pele's golden teammates who helped him SO MUCH... who did maradona play with????? burruchaga,careca,giordino,valdano.. maradona's average-ish teammates who couldn't even dribble past a player properly let alone helping maradona...

 

The list of footballers who said maradona is the greatest and infinity:

 

Zidane: the greatest ever

 

2: Careca: admiteas was far better than pele

 

3: Bobby Charlton: the greatest footballer

 

4: Gullit: he was from another world

 

5: Marco van Basten: The Greatest footballer ever

 

6: Former manager of england bobby robson: hate him or love him he was the greatest player of all time.

 

7: Zola: he was the god of football

 

8: Ronaldhino: hes was my idol and greatest

 

9: won player of the century at fifa 2000 awards

 

11: Ze Roberto and R. Carlos: Maradona was without doubt the greatest

 

12: Bearzot: Maradona is football

 

13: Sacchi on sky: Maradona is the best player in the world

 

14: Baggio: Maradona all players dream

 

15: gentile: Maradona better than Pelè

 

16: Boscov: Maradona can not be compared

 

17: Sivori: maradona the best in the world

 

18: Cantona: Maradona is greatest art.The

 

19: Eusebio: Maradona was the greatest

 

20: Maldini: Maradona is Maradona

 

– "Ruud Gullit: Diego Maradona is the best ever in my opinion". goal.com, 29 July 2012 – "Lionel Messi: Diego Maradona is the greatest of all-time". SoccerAnchor, 7 September 2011 – "Rummenigge: Maradona better than Pele". The Times of India, 12 November 2008 – "Paolo Maldini: Maradona best ever, Ronaldo close second" Paolo Maldini fan page, 21 July 2008 – "Gary Lineker: Diego has been the best player without a doubt, better than Pele" SoccerBlog, 25 March 2006 – "Glenn Hoddle: Diego Maradona is the greatest player of all time". SoccerBible, 22 July 2010. – "Ryan Giggs: Maradona is the best of all time". tribalfootball, 11 October 2011. – "Rio Ferdinand: In my eyes Maradona is the best footballer ever". fifa.com, 7 November 2008 – "Mario Kempes: Maradona is absolutely the best". ESPN soccernet, 18 April 2005. – "Aguero: It is disrespectful to compare me to Maradona". Mirro Football, 20 November 2011. – "Frank McGarvey: Diego Maradona was world's best player". Daily Record, 30 October 2008. – "Gordon Smith: Maradona was the best player I ever saw play the game". Daily Record, 30 October 2008. – "Trevor Edwards: Maradona is best" Central Telegraph, 11 April 2012 – "Maradona’s still number one". The Sun, 29 April 2011. – "Considered by many as the greatest football player to have ever walked the face of the earth". FIFA.com

 

 

berdutzalin
berdutzalin

@Tanvir 86 @Sansho was about to wrote smthing similar after reading lots of these pro pele comments.

Yes,pele has the numbers besides him,but you can't compare carlos alberto''s brazil golden team with maradona's underdogs argentina.

Maradona undercome the odds everywhere he went,carrying his team mostly in crucial matches. He had not so easy career as pele,cause of injuries,drug addiction,and lower teammates.

What maradona did overall,pure genius.

Personally,i admire zidane's plays the most,cause he was my childhood idol so it's not about taking sides or smthing.

Also i believe Gherghe Hagi should be at least me

ntioned here.

Tanvir 86
Tanvir 86

Today is undoubtedly a sad day for football.. The greatest Portuguese player in history, the black Panther, a man who reinvented the art of scoring goals in the 1960s-- Eusebio has passed away from this world at the age of 71...

 

He stamped Portugal's name in the football map with his explosive goals in the 1966 WC... At that WC, much of the world was disappointed with Pele's epic failure but Eusebio exploded just at the right time to fill up the vacuum.. obviously, eusebio remained in Pele's shadows for the most of 60s,, but his domination in the European Cup was second to none.. and for that,, he remains an unfettering figure in the golden history of football..in my list of 100 greatest players,, he is no.12

 

May peace rest upon his Departed Soul............................................

ronaldofenomenon
ronaldofenomenon

with all the respect to maradona he is one of the greatest ever but  pele was better. if you look some old videos of pele was amazing,his dribbling,ball control and shoot was much better than maradona, who forgot the match against uruguay 1970 world cup pele performed the best skill ever.yes maradona win the biggest poll of fifa, but was voted by young fans who dont see pele play,in the other hand pele wins win the poll  by lengendery players who wins golden balls, if you dont believe watch here http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/best-x-players-of-y.html. its funny some compare the poll of maradona and the poll of pele WHY??? because  these footballers who are legends of these sport knows far more tons than football fans.

Tanvir 86
Tanvir 86

 @ronaldofenomenon i do remember the MISS OF THE CENTURY when the "Almighty Pele" did everything right against uruguay but then failed to score an OPEN goal.. When maradona dribbled against england,, nothing was open yet he still scored and that also against a 6'3 Shilton covering the goal..if pele scored on that night in 1970 then he MIGHT have reached the level of maradona but unfortunately that never happened..

 

why don't you see the even older videos of garrincha??? that will make pele look like a ball boy..

 

obviously,, "Legendary" players like Beckenbeur,Platini shared the same bed with pele in FIFA so it no surprise that FIFA would honour their favorite poster boy with that hilarious award.. Legendary players like Di Stefano,Bearzot,Baresi,Maldini who stayed far away from FIFA's A$$ said that Maradona was greater than pele.. so you decide which group of Legend's comments are you going to approve??? the fans already gave their verdict quite emphatically in three Worldwide polls.......

 

 

ronaldofenomenon
ronaldofenomenon

 @Tanvir 86 Alfredo Di Stefano: "The best player ever? Pele. Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo are both great players with specific qualities, but Pele was better."  your propaganda agaist pele is amazing,first off all you dont have proves that pele kiss  the ass of fifa. in a tv show, maradona and pele show there skills who has better heeding, pele beats maradona, if you dont bealave watch here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSRz3IZKhUg.all the legends like cruyff,Beckenbeur,di stefano voted pele and maradona voted by the fans.end of story

ronaldofenomenon
ronaldofenomenon

 @andyzidane  @Tanvir 86 maybe you dont understand my worlds, the video shows that pele has better ball control and proves his better that maradona,yes maradona is one of the best ever but pele is better, just  symple if you watch the video

Tanvir 86
Tanvir 86

 @ronaldofenomenon HAHAHAHA.... what a pathetic video.. oh wow, a 73-year old pele has better ball control than a 53-year old Maradona,, so that makes him a greater player????????????!!!!!!!

 

Pele himself said DiStefano is the greatest player of all time... Messi?? Cristiano Ronaldo??? even a 10-year old boy having an average knowledge about football history will say that Pele is greater than these two.. But when it was asked to Distefano about Pele AND maradona,, He picked Maradona... Beckenbeur shares the bed with pele in FIFA and they also ran Viagra campaigns together.. so it is a no-brainer that beckenbeur would vote for his lifetime partner.. the legends who were not slaves to FIFA ,,they all said that maradona is the greatest..

 

You can now masturbate by watching that hilarious video.. Trolls like you have no place in this great site...

ronaldofenomenon
ronaldofenomenon

 @Tanvir 86 this show was the year 2000 maradona was 40 and pele was 60, you  blame maradona every time,the video show that maradona lose the ball and again you said that maradona is greater than pele,you said that pele kiss the ass off fifa and all the biggest football organizations but you dont prove it,if you watch the brazilian ronaldo dribbble skills and technique is far more better than maradona,i think the only part that maradona is better than pele is the free kicks.

Tanvir 86
Tanvir 86

 @ronaldofenomenon  you are that same troll by the name of Harry1996,,, changing names won't hide your retarded character..

 

as i've said many times before,, if you love pele so much then give him a call.. Make love with him using the cheapest viagras and then post the videos on youtube.. this site is for those people who can debate both subjectively and objectively using their vast knowledge about the rich history of football and not by posting pathetic rubbish youtube videos.. thus, you are not eligible to comment on this site by default..So stop wasting time and make that call to Pele before he runs to FIFA to sleep with Beckenbeur....

 

Tanvir 86
Tanvir 86

 @ronaldofenomenon  you are that same troll by the name of Harry1996,,, changing names won't hide your retarded character..

 

as i've said many times before,, if you love pele so much then give him a call.. Make love with him using the cheapest viagras and then post the videos on youtube.. this site is for those people who can debate both subjectively and objectively using their vast knowledge about the rich history of football and not by posting pathetic rubbish youtube videos.. thus, you are not eligible to comment on this site by default..So stop wasting time and make that call to Pele before he runs to FIFA to sleep with Beckenbeur....

ronaldofenomenon
ronaldofenomenon

 @Tanvir 86  again and again you dont aswer in my question about pele kiss the ass of fifa and you fall to see in this symple video that maradona lose,you can talk trash every time but you dont proove nothing,1970 pele do the greatest skill ever, maranona never do something like that,in the era off pele, the ball was more harder to control than maradona era,who is harry1996, maybe someone who support pele?i dont give a shit.i just say my option,but there are more important thinks in life about pele and maradona

ronaldofenomenon
ronaldofenomenon

 @Tanvir 86 maybe my english is not so good  but  you cant avoid the truth,cruyff,beckebauer,platini,di stefano,zico said pele, all this players kiss the ass of fifa?hahahaha.you can say anything you want but you dont proove a thing.

nismoz
nismoz

 @ronaldofenomenon  @Tanvir 86 @ Ronaldofenomenon, instead of judging a players true strength based on other retired footballers comments, why dont u use ur brain and watch the standard of football in Pele's era? did u ever ask urself the question if gk even used gloves back in the 60s? did 4-2-4 formation play a major factor in helping the attacking team? did man marking even exist back then? have u even watched a game of the champs league in the 60s? how many subs were allowed in each game when pele was playing? how many games did Pele really played in 1962 wc? when u find out all the answers for that question i suggest u watch the serie a matches that Maradona played in Napoli in the late 80s and do a serious comparison on the defence both players faced! Real Madrid could win 5 champs league in the late 50s but no team has even come close to it since. what does that tell u? Football standards has gone up 3 notch since Pele's days!